World's Lightest Helix?

Joey_Ricard's picture

Something a little different. Maybe some discussion.

Lightweight helix with easy to handle and cut materials. The backstory is that I actually built one of these for a proposed traveling display layout a couple of years ago. This was after our Spruce Coal & Timber On30 layout had made the rounds from 2013-2017

I had seen only 1 traveling layout that had a working helix and that was the famous N Scale Clinchfield back in the day. I'm sure there had to have been others, but my thought at the time was weight saving. 

Joey 

 

 

 

Cutting design and material wastage

Dear Joey,

Interesting video, thanks for posting. Have to ask, did you consider cutting trapezoid sections rather than arcs to gain better usage of the source sheet material?

Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
Prof Klyzlr

PS the tab-in-slot construction looks good, esp being "designed-in".

@Joey

Nice video, entertaining as your videos always are, and informative.

A question:  At approximately the 9:40 mark, you mentioned cutting out the 1/2 inch base by hand - what tool did you use to make the (circular, not that it matters) cut?

I've used Gatorboard for years for a variety of applications, including bases for structures, and for roadbed (straight).  Never thought about it in the fashion that you have introduced.

Thanks!

Al Carter

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Cost of 3/16 Gatorboard vs 3/16 Plywood

Joey,

How much of a price difference is there between a 4x8 sheet of 3/16 Gatorboard vs plywood? I'm seeing packs of 15 go for around $1,000 which brings a sheet to around $70, excluding oversize shipping. Not to mention the inability to get just 1 or 2 sheets of the stuff for that price. I'm assuming as a print shop owner you get better pricing due to volumes used versus us incidental buyers. Any good sources you can point to besides me driving up north 30 miles to your shop? :)

-Yaron.

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Prof Klyzlr - quick answer is yes, I considered the alternative shapes and used them on previous projects that were plywood. Most likely, the traps would work out more efficiently if I were cutting from the parent sheet by hand. With the recent Gatorboard projects  that I cut on the laser, I had to cut the parent sheet into pieces that I could fit on the laser. In this case, the difference with the arc allowed me to add in the clamps on the same cut job. 

 

Hi Al Carter, those 1/2" bases were cut with a simple box cutter. I just drew a circle from a center point.

 

Hi Yaron, depends on what plywood you are are using of course, but good plywood can be expensive. The real difference for me comes in when work/time is considered. Setting up saw horses or a table, getting the tools out, having someone help you.... and of course....the mess! If you are looking,  I don't know if he lists them on the website, but you can certainly call my supplier which is Walker Supply in Rockville, MD. Walkersupply.com -  I take my trailer down every few months.  If you do, ask for Kent Walker and tell him I sent you. He'd probably give you a deal. if not,  I think Uline has them in (If I remember correctly) cartons of 3? 

 

Joey

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vggrek's picture

very nice!!!

very nice!!!

World's Lightest Helix?

LOL, that reminds me of "worlds lightest steam roller" , and wondering who really wants a light one? ...DaveB

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I once built a small N scale

I once built a small N scale version of the original Gorre and Daphetid plan from dollar store foamcore. I think one would have to go with better quality stuff but it occurs to me that, if properly engineered and supported, one could do a small, low turn count helix with foamcore. Just throwing it out there. Maybe more trouble than it's worth.

Michael

Original member of the "Gang of Six"

R.I.P. Verne Niner. The time I got to know you was way too short my friend.

"We all model the prototype, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous"

My Pike, https://mrhmag.com/blog/MichaelT

 

WOW

Joey nice design and build and video.  Very cool.  Bet you’d sell some helix kits if offered on your web store  

The helix is my greatest model railroad fear. Even more than ballasting turnouts :)

Don’t let the haters get you down and hopefully they don’t dissuade you from sharing future projects here.  

jeff

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Star Gate SG-1 :-p

I did a quick scan of the video and my first thought was, how do you dial in a planet (see SG-1)!!!  It looks like you got yourself a star gate there.  cheeky​ 

Regarding reliable operation on a 22 inch radius, it appears that it depends on 4-axle geeps and 50' or shorter freight cars.  Well and good.

But what if you want to run 89' flat cars and 85'  auto racks and passenger cars and six axle tunnel motors?  What radius could I reliably run trains with these rolling stock in them?

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Jim Fitch
northern VA

 

Chuck P's picture

Who really wants one

are who Joey said, people who are lugging it to shows. It needs to be portable.

HO - Western New York - 1987 era
"When your memories are greater than your dreams, joy will begin to fade."

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